From news.daimi.aau.dk!news.uni-c.dk!sunic!news.luth.se!eru.mt.luth.se!bloom-beacon.mit.edu!satisfied.elf.com!news.mathworks.com!uunet!world!jlr Mon Mar 13 13:55:50 1995 Newsgroups: comp.arch Path: news.daimi.aau.dk!news.uni-c.dk!sunic!news.luth.se!eru.mt.luth.se!bloom-beacon.mit.edu!satisfied.elf.com!news.mathworks.com!uunet!world!jlr From: jlr@world.std.com (John L Redford) Subject: Re: HP PA-RISC vs DEC Alpha Message-ID: Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA References: <3hrh6h$ael@lowell.bellcore.com> <3iaihj$nbu@unixfe.rl.ac.uk> <3idrkn$ntn@nova.netapp.com> <3ifpc1$37p@nntp.Stanford.EDU> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 1995 03:31:21 GMT Lines: 14 oberman@misd.stanford.edu (Stuart Oberman) writes: >In article <3idrkn$ntn@nova.netapp.com>, Guy Harris wrote: >>(BTW, is anybody at DEC allowed to tell us all what "EV" stands for?) >I was under the impression that EV stood for Extended Vax. DEC marketing has probably put that out, since they're too embarassed to give the real source. Since I'm no longer at DEC, I can reveal the secret - it stands for Electric Vlasic. Members of the original Alpha design team took time out from their insanely hectic schedule to see what would happen if you put 120V across a vlasic pickle. The legends are true; it fluoresces green. Only try this in a well-ventilated area. -- /jlr (John Redford, jlr@world.std.com) From news.daimi.aau.dk!news.uni-c.dk!sunic!ugle.unit.no!trane.uninett.no!eunet.no!nuug!Norway.EU.net!dkuug!EU.net!howland.reston.ans.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!uwm.edu!lll-winken.llnl.gov!noc.near.net!analog.com!analog.com!nwd2sun2.analog.com!mayer Mon Mar 13 13:57:07 1995 Newsgroups: comp.arch Path: news.daimi.aau.dk!news.uni-c.dk!sunic!ugle.unit.no!trane.uninett.no!eunet.no!nuug!Norway.EU.net!dkuug!EU.net!howland.reston.ans.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!uwm.edu!lll-winken.llnl.gov!noc.near.net!analog.com!analog.com!nwd2sun2.analog.com!mayer From: mayer@penguin.analog.com (chris.mayer@analog.com) Subject: Re: HP PA-RISC vs DEC Alpha In-Reply-To: oberman@misd.stanford.edu's message of 22 Feb 1995 16:39:29 GMT Message-ID: Sender: usenet@analog.com (News pseudo-user usenet) Organization: Analog Devices Inc, Norwood MA, USA References: <3hrh6h$ael@lowell.bellcore.com> <3iaihj$nbu@unixfe.rl.ac.uk> <3idrkn$ntn@nova.netapp.com> <3ifpc1$37p@nntp.Stanford.EDU> Date: Fri, 24 Feb 1995 00:50:18 GMT Lines: 76 > Stuart Oberman (oberman@misd.stanford.edu) wrote: > >(BTW, is anybody at DEC allowed to tell us all what "EV" stands for?) > > I was under the impression that EV stood for Extended Vax. I think it's actually "Electro-Vlassic"-- or at least that's what the designers of EV3 were swearing to. Here's an old post below which explains the concept pretty well. Oh-- I heard from someone who tried this with 220V. Don't. /Chris ================================================================================ Newsgroups: alt.machines.misc From: spowell@trentu.ca (STEFAN POWELL) Subject: Glowing Pickle Message-ID: <11JAN199318572241@trentu.ca> News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41 Sender: news@trentu.ca (USENET News System) Organization: Trent Computing and Telecommunications Department Date: Mon, 11 Jan 93 18:57:00 WET Lines: 39 CAUTION! CAUTION! CAUTION! CAUTION! CAUTION! CAUTION! CAUTION! CAUTION! CAUTION! If you run standard house current through a pickle you can make it glow. I made a device for doing this. You put a pickle on the two metal spikes, plug it in, and flip the power switch. Nothing happens at first, because it takes about 15-25 seconds for the pickle to warm-up. Then the pickle will start to smoke and buzz and sizzle, and then GLOW! The device that I made (diagram below) works just fine, but it only glows at one end of the pickle. Does anybody have any suggestions as to how I could make my pickle glow better? Can anyone figure out a possible use for such a device? Has anybody in tied this in Europe? /~~-_ _-~~\ ( . . ~~--____--~~. . ) ( . . . . . . ) <==== Pickle \ . . . . . . . / Plug & cord ~__ . . . __~ ||~-__________-~|| || __||______________||__ <==== Metal spikes || / || || \ ___ \/ / _/' /\ `\ \ __| \ / _/ _/ / \ \ | |-------------------/ /~~~/ /~~\ ) \ __| |-------------------\_ / ~~ \ / \ <==== Switch |___/ / \____|~~~~~~~~~~|__/ \ / |__________| \ /____________________________________\ | | |____________________________________| <==== Base _______________________________________________________________________________ "Don't worry Ma'am. We're university students, we know what we're doing." --Stefan Powell - SPowell@TrentU.CA ================================================================================ -- --------------------------------- Christopher Mayer chris.mayer@analog.com Analog Devices Inc. 617-461-3013 Norwood, MA From news.daimi.aau.dk!news.uni-c.dk!sunic!news.luth.se!eru.mt.luth.se!bloom-beacon.mit.edu!spool.mu.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!math.ohio-state.edu!caen!crl.dec.com!crl.dec.com!pa.dec.com!nntpd2.cxo.dec.com!odette.cxo.dec.com!spratte Mon Mar 13 14:05:42 1995 Path: news.daimi.aau.dk!news.uni-c.dk!sunic!news.luth.se!eru.mt.luth.se!bloom-beacon.mit.edu!spool.mu.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!math.ohio-state.edu!caen!crl.dec.com!crl.dec.com!pa.dec.com!nntpd2.cxo.dec.com!odette.cxo.dec.com!spratte From: spratte@odette.cxo.dec.com (Michael Spratte) Newsgroups: comp.arch Subject: Re: HP PA-RISC vs DEC Alpha Date: 24 Feb 1995 20:12:41 GMT Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation Lines: 44 Distribution: world Message-ID: <3ilejp$1gb@nntpd2.cxo.dec.com> References: <3hrh6h$ael@lowell.bellcore.com> <3iaihj$nbu@unixfe.rl.ac.uk> Reply-To: spratte@odette.cxo.dec.com (Michael Spratte) NNTP-Posting-Host: odette.cxo.dec.com X-Newsreader: mxrn 6.18-9 In article , mayer@penguin.analog.com (chris.mayer@analog.com) writes: |> |>> Stuart Oberman (oberman@misd.stanford.edu) wrote: |>> >(BTW, is anybody at DEC allowed to tell us all what "EV" stands for?) |>> |>> I was under the impression that EV stood for Extended Vax. |> |>I think it's actually "Electro-Vlassic"-- or at least that's what the |>designers of EV3 were swearing to. Here's an old post below which |>explains the concept pretty well. |> |>Oh-- I heard from someone who tried this with 220V. Don't. |> |>/Chris Digital's Western Research Laboratory Technical Note TN-13, "Characterization of Organic Illumination Systems" covers electro-vlassicity in fine detail. Here is the abstract: Recent anecdotal reports of novel principles of illumination have stressed qualitative aspects. This note presents a quantitative study of an organic illumintation system, characterizing the temperature and current-flow properties of the system as functions of time and device parameters. Theoretical and practical implications of these measurements are discussed. I believe that you can order this by sending mail to wrl-techreports@decwrl.dec.com with the single line: send postscript TN-13 I don't know why this report doesn't show up in the index. Michael Spratte Digital Equipment Corporation Colorado Springs, Colorado The opinions expressed here do not represent those of Digital Equipment Corporation, IBM, HP, AT&T, Bill Clinton, Newt Gingrich, or Dan Rather.